too may little guilds, doing nothing... - Guild Wars Forums

Mesmer in Need · Sep 21, 2006, 01:53 AM // 01:53

alot of people, as soon as they get enough money, like to start teir own guild, recruit a few people, then just sit wallowing in among the many guilds. they dont do anything really- no gvg, no ha, pvp etc. my question- why do we have these. i have skipped through many guilds, and so far i have only done 1 gvg. Most of my people are never on. I think alot of the smaller inactive guilds should break up, and siphon into other guilds. and also- if you are going to join a guild- dont disapear. i mean, if yoy dont get one like every weeks atleast once, you shouldent be in a guild. and if you are on alot, but dont really like gvg or stuff like that, you dont have too. i mean, no ones forcing you. my idea would be to have a huge non- interested, non- ranked guild, but have alot of active people. even if you dont like pvp, its always nice having some friends whoe will hep you in a mission if all there are are wothless pugs. so i ask all the leaders of the smaller guilds to break up. its not thar we dont like you, it just your members could be put to better use in big active guilds. somne people in smaller guilds probably have potential, but it isnt getting used.

Arkantos · Sep 21, 2006, 02:06 AM // 02:06

Umm...all the little guilds aren't hurting anybody. Leave them alone. Having a guild of 5 inactive people never hurt anybody. If somebody wants to move to a bigger guild, let them. If they want to stay in a small inactive uneventful guild, so be it. Nobody is forcing them to stay in the little guild.

Mesmer in Need · Sep 21, 2006, 02:20 AM // 02:20

my point is that people have potential that dont know it are wasting their time in non active guilds, while bigger guilds could use their help. i mean, being in one of the top guilds will really get you some fame withing the game. alot of good people are out there hiding in these guilds. and big pvp builds are not without their bonuses. you can get 100k +xxx ectos from a nice crystalin sword that only drops from HOH which is pvp, and alot of good guilds do this.

Arkantos · Sep 21, 2006, 02:29 AM // 02:29

If they have potential, they'll seek another guild. If they wanna GvG/HoH, they'll seek a bigger guild. Stop trying to force people to join big active PvP guilds, not everyone with potential wants in one.

Well99 · Sep 21, 2006, 02:36 AM // 02:36

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Originally Posted by Mesmer in Need

alot of people, as soon as they get enough money, like to start teir own guild, recruit a few people, then just sit wallowing in among the many guilds. they dont do anything really- no gvg, no ha, pvp etc. my question- why do we have these. i have skipped through many guilds, and so far i have only done 1 gvg. Most of my people are never on. I think alot of the smaller inactive guilds should break up, and siphon into other guilds. and also- if you are going to join a guild- dont disapear. i mean, if yoy dont get one like every weeks atleast once, you shouldent be in a guild. and if you are on alot, but dont really like gvg or stuff like that, you dont have too. i mean, no ones forcing you. my idea would be to have a huge non- interested, non- ranked guild, but have alot of active people. even if you dont like pvp, its always nice having some friends whoe will hep you in a mission if all there are are wothless pugs. so i ask all the leaders of the smaller guilds to break up. its not thar we dont like you, it just your members could be put to better use in big active guilds. somne people in smaller guilds probably have potential, but it isnt getting used.

Why should they.I have my own Guild.I am the only member and dont recruit.I was tired of being spammed or someone sending a invitation.
As far as not haveing to GVG.Well before I joined a guild I made it clear I dont PVP or FF.Let me tell you from expierence that it doesnt sink in.I was tired of being pestered or out right told to go to GH for GVG.Hit G click the icon leave guild.It has happened to often.Also when you let them no you dont FF it dont work.
As far as guild helping...sure some low lev but most of the high level ones few volunteer to help.I never did ask for help mainly because I played for awhile so I can manage too get thru.I know I would help on missions and those that had been in the guild didnt.Shoot first day or two with guild and that ticks you off.The ones who had been in the guild should of jumped in but did'nt.
The irony of this is you want to GVG and most of the guilds I been in that was their focus.Even though they said it was a PVE guild.
You cant force people(General statement) to do what you want.Everyone pays the same price for a game.They should be allowed to play the game the way they want to as long as it doesnt goof someone else up.....AFKers and such and scammers....oh well

Malice Black · Sep 21, 2006, 02:38 AM // 02:38

WTF?

Its easier to get your point across if people can actually read what you have posted.

From what I can understand you want people to leave their cosy little guilds to join vast PvP guilds....HELL NO

PvP guilds will be of little interest to a fair chunk of the community including me. If people want to join a PvP guild they will seek out one when they are ready.

Small and friendly guilds FTW

Opeth11 · Sep 21, 2006, 04:47 AM // 04:47

I'm in a small guild becuase:

1 - I don't like being flooded with other people's stupid questions and comments.

2 - I don't like GvG.

3 - I don't like Faction Farming

4 - I don't like people.

5 - I would rather chat with all my friends at once without having someone else invade our privacy.

6 - I could have the cape I want, the name I want, the tag I want, the hall I want, and the people I want.

I don't see what's wrong with the small guilds. OH NO, THEY'RE IDLE, I'M DOOMED.

Poison Ivy · Sep 21, 2006, 07:53 AM // 07:53

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Originally Posted by Mesmer in Need

my point is that people have potential that dont know it are wasting their time in non active guilds, while bigger guilds could use their help. i mean, being in one of the top guilds will really get you some fame withing the game. alot of good people are out there hiding in these guilds. and big pvp builds are not without their bonuses. you can get 100k +xxx ectos from a nice crystalin sword that only drops from HOH which is pvp, and alot of good guilds do this.

OMG I gota Crystalline, this game is fun and this guild rocks and I'm gonna be rich! Ok, so that's the type of person you are.

But what about the people who don't care about money, who just want to have fun with some family and friends online without being too disturbed by other people, what if they see Guild Wars simply as an entertainment, as a simple side dish. We should ask them to break up and join big guilds and do hardcore PvP or PvE and loose their life to GW and go crazy when they finally get that Crystalline after months of grinding.

Right?

jummeth · Sep 21, 2006, 10:52 AM // 10:52

I think you'll find that PvP guilds will tend to be smaller than PvE guilds.

Simply because the politics will be easier since you don't need to rotate in people and you will always be able to practice with a set team. Sooner or later you learn where each person's weaknesses and strengths are.

As for small inactive guilds, if they are inactive anyway, what help is it going to be if these people joining bigger guilds?

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Originally Posted by Opeth11

4 - I don't like people.

I think you are playing the wrong kind of game.

milan · Sep 21, 2006, 11:51 AM // 11:51

I'm in a one man guild right now to stop the whisper spam about joining a guild (specially when I played my monk).

I do enjoy GvG'ing and AB's and I do both, I guest for other guilds and for ab I find a group once entered.

To my expense I've found that getting into a proper pvp guild can be incredibly tiresome, long winded and then you still have to put up with the egos, especially when it's known that I also enjoy pve.

A lot of the smaller guilds I've come across are guilds setup with groups of friends that happen to add another person every now and again because they fit in with the rest of the people. There is no valid reason I can think of for those guilds to disband their own mini community to join a sprawling spam fest of a huge generic guild.

seraphite86 · Sep 21, 2006, 12:54 PM // 12:54

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Originally Posted by Mesmer in Need

and big pvp builds are not without their bonuses. you can get 100k +xxx ectos from a nice crystalin sword that only drops from HOH which is pvp, and alot of good guilds do this.

This deviates from your main topic/question. First you asked why people don't join high-end guilds and now you believe everyone wants a crystalline sword? You can get the replica in Pre-Sear and fool anyone.

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Originally Posted by Poison Ivy

OMG I gota Crystalline, this game is fun and this guild rocks and I'm gonna be rich! Ok, so that's the type of person you are. Right?

Right. To sum up what Poison Ivy said, "you are greedy."

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

If they have potential, they'll seek another guild. If they wanna GvG/HoH, they'll seek a bigger guild. Stop trying to force people to join big active PvP guilds, not everyone with potential wants in one.

Large serious PvP guilds usually(keyword) are full of "elitist" assholes. I would never want to join guilds that make it up the ladder but don't make the experience fun or rewarding. Everyone has the freedom of choice and I do not recall that joining awesome guilds is a mandatory requirement.

WPCTimCarnage · Sep 21, 2006, 12:59 PM // 12:59

I am in a guild of about 20 with about 8 or so who are on nightly. We are a tight group of friends, and enjoy all parts of the game. We started out with only a handful, some would come on, some wouldn't for a while, but we don't care. We are all friends, and have lives, so they play when they can. This entire business of having people split up because you dont like smaller guilds is stupid. It's a game and people play they way they want to. There are a lot of one or two or three man guilds, and they are that way by choice. If people are looking for something different, then they will go. We have had a few move onto different guilds because of wanting to play pvp, or other parts of the game. It's fine with us, thats what they want to do.. (they did infact purchase their game). We all remain on eachothers friends list, and if someone who left went to pvp, and our guild needed help in pvp then the people that left would help us. So it works for everyone. I would say relax, and enjoy the game, it's fun for everyone. I hope you are not the type of person that insults people in game, which is crazy, but you get that as well... lol... good luck to everyone... enjoy it..

Forbes · Sep 21, 2006, 03:56 PM // 15:56

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Originally Posted by Mesmer in Need

its not thar we dont like you, it just your members could be put to better use in big active guilds. somne people in smaller guilds probably have potential, but it isnt getting used.

Members could be put to better use? People in smaller guilds have potential? Are we talking about a game or running a business? I don't know about you but I am playing to get away from work, not to substitute it. People want to have fun, that's why they bought the game. If you want fame, that's good for you. The rest of us are happy with being able to play and chat with nice people.

Josh · Sep 21, 2006, 05:06 PM // 17:06

These are causing problems to you how exactly?

Jeremy Untouchable · Sep 21, 2006, 05:40 PM // 17:40

LOL, he must be one of those guys spamming for factionfarmers...........only 10k a day........wtf.thats work....i have a 35 man guild that as a guild can totally run and or beat every mission and area, even UW, FOW We are elite pve guild with some gvg. And we like it that way........... We tryed the faction farming thing, it sucked, we owned towns and all, but who cares? just a crummy town.....All i can say is big guilds arent all they are cracked up to be.............
out

Coridan · Sep 21, 2006, 06:30 PM // 18:30

I think the problem here is he has guild eveny....He probably started his only little guild to PVP or GVG or whatever and found out that no one wanted to join his guild so he thinks everyone should quit thiers and make his huge and ranked etc... just my 2 cents worth

Kusandaa · Sep 21, 2006, 06:31 PM // 18:31

I'm in a very large guild: 67 members, 5 officers and the leader. We're mostly PvE; but we have 10 (maybe less O_o; ) or so that are hardcore PvPers. We DON'T GvG and that's something that, so far, everyone agreed with. GvG causes an enormous distinction between players (GvGers vs. PvErs) and in the end, no one's happy.

That's how it was in the previous 6 or 7 guilds I've been in. Members were recruited, ans expected to GvG daily/weekly. So we were small guilds, and PvEers didn't get any help because no one was on, because the GvGers lost interest because PvErs didn't care for rank, who lost interest because they don't get help...

Catch 22 FTL.

So to go back on guild size, it doesn't matter to me. Just join one that suits your needs. I prefer huge PvE guilds because there's always someone on to chat or to help with, to make me feel less alone. While some prefer smaller guilds because they're not bombarbed with help requests, n00b questions, etc.

I found mine, and I'm sticking to it

. The PvPers do HA, RA, TA and AB and they still help with PvE. PvErs get help, they're happy, and dabble in PvP every now and then IF they feel like it. Everyone ends up happy

.

IrishCatholicNewYorker · Sep 21, 2006, 07:12 PM // 19:12

ummmm.... are you kidding me who are you to tell small guilds to break up??? i'm sorry to be rude but if you told the guild of 20 members im in to break up I would add you to ignore... And as far as helping big guilds??? I don't play this game to help big guilds I play it for enjoyment. I love my guild of 20 because their all decent people which can be hard to find sometimes. I know if I lend someone some expensive weapon that they will give it back after there done.How is this causing you a problem??? Find a real problem! Small Guilds FTW!!!!

TheMadKingGeorge · Sep 21, 2006, 07:32 PM // 19:32

we have potential probally more than you just because. we dont gvg because it sucks we dont hoh because all there is is iway and vim and thats not much of a challenge we just sit back relax and enjoy the ride

TheMadKingGeorge · Sep 21, 2006, 07:42 PM // 19:42

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Originally Posted by jeremy untouchable

LOL, he must be one of those guys spamming for factionfarmers...........only 10k a day........wtf.thats work....i have a 35 man guild that as a guild can totally run and or beat every mission and area, even UW, FOW We are elite pve guild with some gvg. And we like it that way........... We tryed the faction farming thing, it sucked, we owned towns and all, but who cares? just a crummy town.....All i can say is big guilds arent all they are cracked up to be.............
out

too true i was in the 2nd alliance to own cavalon which was TC i belive i cant rememebr but i was in one of the guilds ... and all they wanted was 10k + faction a day...for nothing in return.... personally i have more fun farming shiro kens than i ever did abing

the people who think there exp and pro because they win is amazing... little do they know that gvg , pve , pvp and HoH a miles away from ab battles

Sep 21, 2006, 01:53 AM // 01:53	#1
Mesmer in Need Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: [ToA]	too may little guilds, doing nothing... alot of people, as soon as they get enough money, like to start teir own guild, recruit a few people, then just sit wallowing in among the many guilds. they dont do anything really- no gvg, no ha, pvp etc. my question- why do we have these. i have skipped through many guilds, and so far i have only done 1 gvg. Most of my people are never on. I think alot of the smaller inactive guilds should break up, and siphon into other guilds. and also- if you are going to join a guild- dont disapear. i mean, if yoy dont get one like every weeks atleast once, you shouldent be in a guild. and if you are on alot, but dont really like gvg or stuff like that, you dont have too. i mean, no ones forcing you. my idea would be to have a huge non- interested, non- ranked guild, but have alot of active people. even if you dont like pvp, its always nice having some friends whoe will hep you in a mission if all there are are wothless pugs. so i ask all the leaders of the smaller guilds to break up. its not thar we dont like you, it just your members could be put to better use in big active guilds. somne people in smaller guilds probably have potential, but it isnt getting used.

Sep 21, 2006, 12:59 PM // 12:59	#12
WPCTimCarnage Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2006 Guild: [XG]X-treme Gamers Profession: Rt/Mo	This is Crazy.. lol I am in a guild of about 20 with about 8 or so who are on nightly. We are a tight group of friends, and enjoy all parts of the game. We started out with only a handful, some would come on, some wouldn't for a while, but we don't care. We are all friends, and have lives, so they play when they can. This entire business of having people split up because you dont like smaller guilds is stupid. It's a game and people play they way they want to. There are a lot of one or two or three man guilds, and they are that way by choice. If people are looking for something different, then they will go. We have had a few move onto different guilds because of wanting to play pvp, or other parts of the game. It's fine with us, thats what they want to do.. (they did infact purchase their game). We all remain on eachothers friends list, and if someone who left went to pvp, and our guild needed help in pvp then the people that left would help us. So it works for everyone. I would say relax, and enjoy the game, it's fun for everyone. I hope you are not the type of person that insults people in game, which is crazy, but you get that as well... lol... good luck to everyone... enjoy it..

Sep 21, 2006, 02:06 AM // 02:06	#2
Arkantos The Greatest Join Date: Feb 2006 Profession: W/	Umm...all the little guilds aren't hurting anybody. Leave them alone. Having a guild of 5 inactive people never hurt anybody. If somebody wants to move to a bigger guild, let them. If they want to stay in a small inactive uneventful guild, so be it. Nobody is forcing them to stay in the little guild.

Sep 21, 2006, 02:20 AM // 02:20	#3
Mesmer in Need Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: [ToA]	my point is that people have potential that dont know it are wasting their time in non active guilds, while bigger guilds could use their help. i mean, being in one of the top guilds will really get you some fame withing the game. alot of good people are out there hiding in these guilds. and big pvp builds are not without their bonuses. you can get 100k +xxx ectos from a nice crystalin sword that only drops from HOH which is pvp, and alot of good guilds do this.

Sep 21, 2006, 02:29 AM // 02:29	#4
Arkantos The Greatest Join Date: Feb 2006 Profession: W/	If they have potential, they'll seek another guild. If they wanna GvG/HoH, they'll seek a bigger guild. Stop trying to force people to join big active PvP guilds, not everyone with potential wants in one.

Sep 21, 2006, 02:38 AM // 02:38	#6
Malice Black Site Legend Join Date: Oct 2005	WTF? Its easier to get your point across if people can actually read what you have posted. From what I can understand you want people to leave their cosy little guilds to join vast PvP guilds....HELL NO PvP guilds will be of little interest to a fair chunk of the community including me. If people want to join a PvP guild they will seek out one when they are ready. Small and friendly guilds FTW

Sep 21, 2006, 04:47 AM // 04:47	#7
Opeth11 Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Richmond, British Columbia, Kanada Guild: Demon of the Fall [Opet] Profession: Mo/Me	I'm in a small guild becuase: 1 - I don't like being flooded with other people's stupid questions and comments. 2 - I don't like GvG. 3 - I don't like Faction Farming 4 - I don't like people. 5 - I would rather chat with all my friends at once without having someone else invade our privacy. 6 - I could have the cape I want, the name I want, the tag I want, the hall I want, and the people I want. I don't see what's wrong with the small guilds. OH NO, THEY'RE IDLE, I'M DOOMED.

Sep 21, 2006, 11:51 AM // 11:51	#10
milan Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: BONE Profession: N/	I'm in a one man guild right now to stop the whisper spam about joining a guild (specially when I played my monk). I do enjoy GvG'ing and AB's and I do both, I guest for other guilds and for ab I find a group once entered. To my expense I've found that getting into a proper pvp guild can be incredibly tiresome, long winded and then you still have to put up with the egos, especially when it's known that I also enjoy pve. A lot of the smaller guilds I've come across are guilds setup with groups of friends that happen to add another person every now and again because they fit in with the rest of the people. There is no valid reason I can think of for those guilds to disband their own mini community to join a sprawling spam fest of a huge generic guild.

Sep 21, 2006, 05:06 PM // 17:06	#14
Josh Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: England, UK Profession: D/Mo	These are causing problems to you how exactly?

Sep 21, 2006, 05:40 PM // 17:40	#15
Jeremy Untouchable Wow Stole my freetime Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arkansas Guild: None Profession: W/E	LOL, he must be one of those guys spamming for factionfarmers...........only 10k a day........wtf.thats work....i have a 35 man guild that as a guild can totally run and or beat every mission and area, even UW, FOW We are elite pve guild with some gvg. And we like it that way........... We tryed the faction farming thing, it sucked, we owned towns and all, but who cares? just a crummy town.....All i can say is big guilds arent all they are cracked up to be............. out

Sep 21, 2006, 06:30 PM // 18:30	#16
Coridan Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: US Guild: Old Married Gamers {OMG} Profession: W/	I think the problem here is he has guild eveny....He probably started his only little guild to PVP or GVG or whatever and found out that no one wanted to join his guild so he thinks everyone should quit thiers and make his huge and ranked etc... just my 2 cents worth

Sep 21, 2006, 06:31 PM // 18:31	#17
Kusandaa Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: N/Mo	I'm in a very large guild: 67 members, 5 officers and the leader. We're mostly PvE; but we have 10 (maybe less O_o; ) or so that are hardcore PvPers. We DON'T GvG and that's something that, so far, everyone agreed with. GvG causes an enormous distinction between players (GvGers vs. PvErs) and in the end, no one's happy. That's how it was in the previous 6 or 7 guilds I've been in. Members were recruited, ans expected to GvG daily/weekly. So we were small guilds, and PvEers didn't get any help because no one was on, because the GvGers lost interest because PvErs didn't care for rank, who lost interest because they don't get help... Catch 22 FTL. So to go back on guild size, it doesn't matter to me. Just join one that suits your needs. I prefer huge PvE guilds because there's always someone on to chat or to help with, to make me feel less alone. While some prefer smaller guilds because they're not bombarbed with help requests, n00b questions, etc. I found mine, and I'm sticking to it . The PvPers do HA, RA, TA and AB and they still help with PvE. PvErs get help, they're happy, and dabble in PvP every now and then IF they feel like it. Everyone ends up happy .

Sep 21, 2006, 07:12 PM // 19:12	#18
IrishCatholicNewYorker Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: FL (from Long Island NY) Guild: Rage Against The Dying [RAGE] Profession: Me/W	ummmm.... are you kidding me who are you to tell small guilds to break up??? i'm sorry to be rude but if you told the guild of 20 members im in to break up I would add you to ignore... And as far as helping big guilds??? I don't play this game to help big guilds I play it for enjoyment. I love my guild of 20 because their all decent people which can be hard to find sometimes. I know if I lend someone some expensive weapon that they will give it back after there done.How is this causing you a problem??? Find a real problem! Small Guilds FTW!!!!

Sep 21, 2006, 07:32 PM // 19:32	#19
TheMadKingGeorge Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: None Profession: Mo/W	we have potential probally more than you just because. we dont gvg because it sucks we dont hoh because all there is is iway and vim and thats not much of a challenge we just sit back relax and enjoy the ride